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Dannahmal is back [Mar. 11th, 2007|01:04 pm]
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Good morning,

Our lovely little friend Dannahmal has resurfaced and is swapping/selling under a new name.

I've found her camped over on the Lush forum as ClownSundae. She's selling Lush and BPAL over there. I caught her by accident.

A bit of history here - When CS first arrived at the Lush forum - she had posted some BPAL up, inparticular a bottle of SnowWhite 03 - when I PMd her for a picture, to make sure it really *was* in the 03 bottle, she sent me a picture of SW05 - I called her on this and she claimed that she didn't know any better and was "new to bpal" - I think I bought something else from her at that point (which I now need to go back and fish out to make sure it is real) - and gave her the standard Swaps lecture about properly identifying her product if she wanted to swap on Lush (I also mod Swaps over there)... no problems after that - and she was quite careful to never sign her name to a PM, or to a package or to use anything other than her clownsundae email addy.

She stayed under the radar until about December - when I got a few complaints about her auctioning product, never shipping, refunding the product after peeps bitched - then said product turning up on ebay. I've noted those down on our swaps area issues page, but I have a rebuttal from her that seems plausable.

Then she decides that she wants to do a group order from Taiwan for a highly coveted Lush product. At this point I get in on the group, still having not seen anything much out of the ordinary from her, this is where things start to go downhill.
Delays, lack of communication, excuses when I PM her to update the group, She starts PMing the group that she might have breast cancer and that is causing her to be stressed and explains that this is why she is slow to communicate. Much luv and reassurance went arround after that from the group and other members. Finally I had enough and got everyone in the group to file a paypal claim right before the 45 days were up. Strangely (thankfully) she has refunded everyone, and still insists that the product will be coming in "next week" - her excuse for the delay this time was that a tree fell on her house. Given all the excuses I'm stating that this is BS at the moment.

Then I get my refund from her, and swaw the the business contact email and phone, which was different than my payment addy. The email that showed up there was fishgopook@gmail.com Now that email addy was one that Dannahmal has used - so I started googling and searching the Lush board - what I found

Exhibit A: same email addy
Exhibit B: pulled up an old paypal payment to Dannahmal - and the new clownsundae email shows up there *grrr*
Exhibit C: She gives the same birthday on both the Lush and BPAL forums
Exhibit D: following a picture she posted on the Lush forum back to her photobucket acccount, I found the picture labed "me" that she uses on her myspace account for Dannahmal and on her old eightfold records/djintrovert space

And since I still have the envelope with the fake oil sitting in in from the last round of scamming - and it lists a city in Texas (hmmm the same area of Texas that Clown says she lives in)

So, it appears that she is back at least on Lush and Ebay - I also saw her over on the feedback page at the main BPAL forum - so she's out and about again
I plan on outing her and banning her from SWAPs on the Lush Forum, we will also probably ban her IP. I'm also wondering if I should put up an FAO to anyone who has swapped with her to have them check product. I'm strongly thinking of issuing a PSA on the Marketplace - if she follows pattern this should be about the point where she pulls a massive swindle again - she's set the stage for it with all her cancer scares and bad things happening. i.e Getting divorced, didn't have money for her kid's xmas - that's why she was selling/auctioning things, now she's had a tree fall on her house.

*pffft* I hate swaplifters who resurrect themselves under new names, thankfully they rarely are good enough to cover all of their tracks

Sorry for this being so long and vaguely ranty,

[User Picture]From: obvious
2007-03-11 06:59 pm (UTC)
I'm completely behind you doing a PSA on bpalmarketplace so people know to question any oils coming from her paypal addy. We have no way of knowing what, if any LiveJournal account she could be using. I really hate to start a witch hunt, but that could be the only way to keep her out of our community. Also, isn't it against BPAL.org rules to have two accounts? She made a ClownSundae account there. There should be someone to notify of that, just in case she runs off to try to peddle her goods there next.
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[User Picture]From: heartovmidnight
2007-03-11 08:10 pm (UTC)
Yeah, ditto. I would say to make a big and huge and very public announcement on the comms and the boards. You might want to give the Lush mods a heads up, too.
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[User Picture]From: tabbyintx
2007-03-11 08:29 pm (UTC)
Since I am one of the Lush mods - no need for a heads up there. I'm already working with our admin to get her the heck out of there.

I'm the primary mod the Swaps area over there - That's what makes this mindboggling that she would even attempt this with me over there. Did she think my attention span was that short?

I just don't want her running over here (if she's not already here) or back onto the BPAL forum either once I out her over there.

I'm already trying to get in touch with peeps who may have swapped/bought bpal oil from her.

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[User Picture]From: obvious
2007-03-11 08:47 pm (UTC)
OH, I also think it should be noted that when things went sour with her in the BPAL LJ community she whipped out a brain cancer story. I don't think that is noted anywhere in her bpal_feedback profile. It's certainly relevent now that she's not only pulling up a potential breast cancer scare on LUSH but is also claiming to have cervical cancer as well. At the time she vanished from the BPAL scene, no one knew the true status of her cancer situation. I think it's fair to say that this is a part of her scam m.o. and should be made public.
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[User Picture]From: jenpo
2007-03-11 10:21 pm (UTC)
We are looking in to her BPAL.org accounts.
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[User Picture]From: tabbyintx
2007-03-23 12:53 am (UTC)


She just threatened me with "her lawyer" - claims that I can't report her for an "old" swaplift

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[User Picture]From: obvious
2007-04-24 12:19 pm (UTC)

Re: Lovely

ooooooooh, e-lawyers are the best. So there's a statute of limitations on "swaplifting"? Is that a federal law or what?

Any good updates on this?
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[User Picture]From: bpaladdict
2007-06-10 06:13 pm (UTC)
Tabby, could you please email me regarding this? sapphireseraph@gmail.com

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